we are endangered-- if you have a cherokee ancestor--

THE DANGER OF BEING SILENCED FOREVER IS VERY REAL.
but this time-- the danger is not from the US GOVERNMENT.
THIS TIME-- the danger to us comes from our own relatives-- from our own CHEREOKEE brothers and sisters!
YOU are in DANGER! OF forever being PREVENTED from talking about YOUR Cherokee Ancestors!
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i don't intend to generate fear or alarm but it is important that we
all know what we are striving for here.
What will happen when the Nancy Ward Association members can no longer
speak of having an ancestor who was cherokee?
--will we forever be silenced?---
Who will speak up for us when NO ONE who has a cherokee ancestor-but
is not federally enrolled-- can declare that?
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we are working to gather as many folks of documented descendancy so
our voice will have credibility when we do propose this to anyone who
will listen... so we want to find the descendants of the Cherokees who
are not federally enrolled but who know who they are... to do that, we
may need to help some folks find those documents... so when we go,
they will know that we are legit!
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DID you know? ???
The CNO and the EBCI passed a resolution on April 2008 at RED CLAY TN
calling for the direct and involved OPPOSITION to any one claiming
Cherokee HERITAGE or ANCESTORS- except in the case of federal
enrollment?
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That means FEDERAL enrollment.
so......
If you are not federally enrolled, they state they do not want you to
be able to claim that an ancestor of yours was cherokee even if that
ancestor is well documented.
---think about that----
In other words-- not only do they oppose groups and state
organizations-- they also do NOT wish anyone who is not federally
enrolled to be able to state their ancestor was cherokee-- so even if
it is true, it is their intention to make it so that we wuld not even
be able to say that we have a Cherokee Ancestor.
NOT EVEN FAMOUS ONES!

is this a move to silence all the cherokee descendants who have low
blood quantums or who are not on the "right" rolls? that is why we are banding together-- all of us who actually do have a
Cherokee Ancestor-- to remind everyone that we are still here.
we are doing this for our children and for future generations. we are
doing this so the descendants of great people like Nancy Ward, Chief
Ross, Chief Lowrey, the signers of the Old Settlers Rolls, and many
many others will always be able to proudly say they have a Cherokee
ancestor.

Your help in this effort is appreciated.


please, speak up now while we still can speak.
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here is the
proof--- HERE IS THE THREAT! [see below] but we have a [hopefully] solution!
so join us in SPEAKING UP AGAINST THE RED CLAY RESOLUTION OF APRIL, 2008!
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This is an emotionally charged issue for both sides.
we do not seek to stand against any cherokee nation or group.
we are instead seeking to stand together and be recognized as family
for that is what we truly are... family.
Some have spoken as to the "intent" of the resolution.
The intention of this resolution may well be questioned,


However, the words are clear enough.
Those are what we must focus on.
So we don't wish to debate what might be the original intention of
this resolution.
We merely wish to speak to what the words of this resolution are
establishing as precedent.
Neither do we wish to seek to ascertain the intention of it,
but we do wish to forestall any interpretation of it that might result
in an unfavorable treatment of our own status.
there fore we are making no attempt to discuss the past hurts of our
people, on either side of the federal recognition issue,
nor are we wanting to discuss how this current resolution has reopened
those wounds and have deepened the feelings of disenfranchisement that
many documented descendants of Cherokee Ancestors now feel as a result
of this Red Clay joint resolution.


that being said, we would like to submit an amendment to be added to
that resolution so that clarity of intention can be insured, so that
those who feel disenfranchised by its current wording can find
assurance in the addition of these words, and so that the purpose of
the resolution be more readily apparent.
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proposed addtion/amendment to Red Clay Joint Resolution of April 2008:


Whereas, there are many descendants of Cherokee people living both
inside and outside of the historical homeland and
Whereas, there are many descendants of Cherokee people who are
ineligible for membership in the CNO, the EBCI and the UKB based upon
internal requirements of those entities and not for the lack of an
actual document Cherokee Ancestor,
whereas, the documented descendants of Cherokee people may wish to
continue to participate in their heritage through cultural, social,
religious, and individual expressions of that heritage
and
whereas the documented descendants of Cherokee people may wish to
organize themselves into legitimate legal entities for the purposes of
fundraising and advancement of those cultural expressions and for
other purposes related to their desires to participate in and
acknowledge their historic and cultural roots,


now therefore be it resolved that that the Joint Council of the
Cherokee Nation and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians do hereby
support the rights of documented descendents of Cherokee ancestors to
declare themselves as such and to participate fully in those social,
cultural, traditional, religious and individual expressions of that
Cherokee heritage,


Be it further resolved that the Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of
Cherokee Indians do acknowledge the rights of documented Cherokee
descendants to organize as 501 (c)3 groups, or as state groups, or as
national groups in order that those documented descendants may be able
to share with one another as they desire.


be it further resolved that the Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of
Cherokee Indians shall make no attempt to inhibit the free expression
of documented descendants of Cherokee people
be it further resolved that the Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of
Cherokee Indians shall make no attempt to proscribe the free speech of
documented descendants of cherokee people
be it further resolved that the Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of
Cherokee Indians shall make no attempt to discourage the activities of
documented descendants of cherokee people in any way.
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again, these are proposed statements, and may need to be added to ...
but we are open to negotiating more conciliatory language than the
current resolution presently contains.
We are open to negotiations on this language... is that the attitude
of the Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians on their
resolution as well?
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there are approximately 80,000 federally enrolled Cherokee. For our
voice to matter, we need to enlist as many folks with cherokee
heritage as possible. some 250,000 people that are NOT federally
enrolled claim to have cherokee ancestors -- we need to find at least
50% of these 250,000 folks, enlist them and get them to join with us
in this endeavor if we are to be successful-- so -- its a daunting
task to locate 125,000 and help them to understand the necessity of
our group but a journey of a 1000 steps and all that cliche... but its
true... here is our one step the first step-- organizing as the
Constitutional Cherokee- not a state group not a local community group
but an organization of all the communities in all the states that have
Cherokee descendants. All of us together with one common goal! Do not
silence us! find your friends and family and neighbors who already
admit to being cherokee descendants help each other find their
documentation and do the research, engage in cultural traditions like
cherokee marbles or if you're a 'tough' guy, stickball, but learn
words, learn cherokee dances and do them... attend stomp whenever
possible-- at the very least once a year at either kituwah in cherokee
nc in june or at the CNO in September every year if you dont have a
local one near you once a year will at least show you are cherokee
persons-- and if you want go to BOTH kituwah and the CNO stomps so you
would have 2 opportunities! it will just take some planning and
dedication. which we will need if we are to defeat the red clay
resolution. we cant keep on being fragmented "oh i'm a tn cherokee" or
"oh i'm an al cherokee" or "oh im a ga cherokee" or "oh i'm a
chickamauga cherokee" we must unite as one in one cause in order to be
able to have a big enough voice to be heard. set aside petty
differences for the greater good our ourselves and our future
generations!
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HERE IT IS! THE DANGEROUS RESOLUTION OF APRIL 2008 AT RED CLAY--
it is LONG but you NEED to read it all!
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JOINT COUNCIL OF
THE CHEROKEE NATION
AND
THE EASTERN BAND OF CHEROKEE INDIANS
Resolution 1# 00-08
A RESOLUTION OPPOSING FABRICATED CHEROKEE "TRIBES" AND "INDIAN'S"
WHEREAS, the Cherokee Nation and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians
since time immemorial have exercised the sovereign rights of self-
government on behalf of the Cherokee people; and
WHEREAS, the Cherokee Nation and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians
are federally recognized Indian Nations with a historic and continual
government to government relationship with the United States of
America; and
WHEREAS, the Joint Council unites the Legislative Branches of
government of the Cherokee Nation and the Eastern Band of Cherokee
Indians, representing approximately 294,000 Cherokee people throughout
the United States of America; and
WHEREAS, the two Cherokee Tribal governments share a common history
prior to forced removal in 1838, and then separate histories to the
present, yet our common language, culture, and traditions have made
the Cherokee Nation and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians distinct
and unique Native people from other Indian Tribes and other people, as
was declared by the Joint Council in Resolution No. 3-92, adopted on
Augusl II, 1992 in Cherokee, North Carolina; and
WHEREAS, the Cherokee Nation has been aware of a growing number of non-
Indian groups claiming to be Cherokee tribes or bands and that these
groups have been organizing and attempting to gain federal
recognition, this problem being acknowledged by the Joint Council in
Resolution No. 008, adopted on October 3, 1988 in Cherokee, North
Carolina; and
WHEREAS, the Department of the Interior through the Bureau of Indian
Affairs' Branch of Acknowledgment and Research maintains the
responsibility for addressing specific applications for federal
recognition and The Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of Cherokee
Indians fully support the federal recognition process; and
WHEREAS, the history of the Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of
Cherokee Indians is well documented and no other tribes or bands of
Cherokee Indians exist aside from those already federally recognized,
which includes the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians in
Oklahoma; and
WHEREAS, the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians and the Cherokee Nation
in Joint Council assembled in Resolution No. 4-96, adopted on October
4, 1996 have previously expressed opposition to the "state
recognition" process by the State of Georgia or other states in the
United States who may seek to recognize a group of 'Cherokee' that do
not already have federal recognition;
WHEREAS, public funding by pseudo-Cherokee Tribes is of epidemic
proportions and often involves membership fees; misleading
presentations to school children and interference in a multitude of
government functions including child welfare cases; and
WHEREAS, the sovereignty and reputation of the Cherokee Nation and the
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, as well as members the general
public continue to be in jeopardy due to the acts of individuals who
organize and administer fabricated Cherokee tribes; and
WHEREAS, untold millions of federal dollars that are appropriated for
the benefit of tribal people are being diverted from their intended
purpose, including money distributed by federal agencies such as the
Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for Native
Americans, the Department of Labor, Department of Education,
Department of Agriculture and other federal agencies.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Joint Council of the Cherokee
Nation and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians do hereby support the
federal recognition process of the Department of the Interior as
administered by the Bureau of Indian Affairs Branch of Acknowledgment
and Research, and endorse the criteria used by the Bureau of Indian
Affairs as appropriate; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of
Cherokee Indians denounce the state or federal recognition of any
further 'Cherokee' tribes or bands, aside from the those already
federally recognized, and commit to exposing and assisting state and
federal authorities in eradicating any group which attempts or claims
to operate as a government of the Cherokee people; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that no public funding from any federal or
state government should be expended on behalf of non-federally
recognized 'Cherokee' tribes or bands or the individual members
thereof; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of
Cherokee Indians shall call for a full accounting of all federal
monies given to state recognized, unrecognized or 501(c)(3) charitable
organizations that claim any Cherokee affiliation.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the federal and state governments should
stringently apply a federal definition of "Indian" that includes only
citizens of federally recognized Indian tribes, to prevent non-Indians
from selling membership in 'Cherokee' tribes for the purpose of
exploiting the Indian Arts and Crafts Act.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that no 501(c)(3) organization, state
recognized or unrecognized groups shall be acknowledged as Cherokee,
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that any individual who is not a member of a
federally recognized Cherokee tribe, in academia or otherwise, is
hereby discouraged from claiming to speak as a Cherokee, or on behalf
of Cherokee citizens, or using claims of Cherokee heritage to advance
his or her career or credentials.
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, that this Resolution shall be the policy of
the Joint Council of the Cherokee Nation and the Eastern Band of
Cherokee Indians until it is withdrawn or modified by subsequent
resolution.
CERTIFICATION
The foregoing resolution was adopted by the Councils of the Cherokee
Nation and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians at the Joint Council
Meeting held in Catoosa, Oklahoma on April 9, 2008, having joint
council members present, constituting a quorum, by the vote of ___yea;
____nay; abstaining.
Meredith A. Frailey
Speaker
Council of the Cherokee Nation
ATTEST
Mike Parker
Chairman of the Tribal Council
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians
Approved and signed by the Principal Chiefs this 9th day of April,
2008.
Chadwick Smith
Principal Chief
Cherokee Nation
Michell Hicks
Principal Chief
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians

cherokee culture-- marbles

REVIVING THE CULTURE….


THE
TRADITIONAL CHEROKEE MARBLE GAME

This is a traditional game that appears to have been played by the Cherokee people continuously for more than 10,000 years. The game begins and ends with a prayer.
Both teams shake hands with everyone who played and the officials at the end.

THE OBJECT OF THE GAME:
Your goal is to prevent the other team’s players from making the holes, while your own team advances through ALL the holes and then BACK again.
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Any number of players can play. Two teams play each game. Each team should have the same # of players as the other team, but may be as large or as small as # of players ready to play.

Although most marble players are great sportsmen who play fairly, you may want to have 2-3 unbiased people assigned as referees so infractions can be called and decisions made in the case of a dispute.

Each player brings his own marble. It will be painted so he can easily identify his marble.
The Marbles were traditionally carefuly and skillfully carved from stone.

Today, most players purchase and use a pool ball (billiard ball) as it is very nearly the traditional size.

Each player will use only one marble for the game and each player keeps track of where their marble is (and as a part of strategy, must be aware of where the other player’s marbles are too)

SETTING UP THE FIELD:

The Marble Field is made up of 5 holes—each hole is about 2 inches in diameter.
The holes are each spaced about 30 feet apart, so you need a field at least 90’ long and 30’ wide.

The holes are laid out in an “L” Shape and must be on a level field.

This image (below) shows how the holes are positioned:



If you cant see the image put them where the x’s are as shown below:

X----------X
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-
------------X
-
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Spectators should stay away from the field far enough so as not to interfere with the game.

Once the game begins, a marble must be picked up and thrown from the spot where it was picked up.
When a marble is thrown, a player may step back, but may NOT step forward with his feet.

TO BEGIN THE GAME:

The game begins by each player throwing their marble while standing at the second hole, and then throwing at the first hole. Players take turns until the marble lands in the hole.

From the 2nd hole, players throw into the first hole and then back to the 2nd hole again.

Once all this has been accomplished, the player can start using the marble to hit another player’s marble away from the field.

When hitting the marble of another player, you must make a direct hit or make one bounce THEN a hit within 4-6 inches of the opponent’s marble.

REMEMBER THE OBJECT OF THE GAME:
Your goal is to prevent the other team’s players from making the holes, while your own team advances through ALL the holes and BACK again. Sometimes this means your strategy for your team will be to be moving forward or sometimes it will be to be going back to knock your opponents marbles out of the way. The most successful teams have a leader who helps the players determine which move to make and they use hand signals to let the player know what to do next, or may break for a moment to discuss the next move. Before the game begins, determine how many time outs may be called, but usually each team is only allowed to call 2 time outs which last no longer than 2-5 minutes and when all agree to do so, the game resumes.

IMPORTANT RULES:
There are really only a few rules….

--The ball must be either a billiard ball or a traditional sized ball and painted to be identifiable.

--A hit to an opponent’s marbles allows the player to make two (2) additional throws of his own marble.

--Additional throws can be either hits of an opponent’s marble or throws toward another hole in the course (the next one he would be playing toward) on the course.

--A player on a team cannot hit other opponent’s marbles more than twice in a row without first making the next hole and then coming back to make the third hit. A skilled player can knock their opponent’s marble far off the field. Remember, once the game begins, a marble must be picked up and thrown from the spot where it was picked up. When a marble is thrown, a player may step back, but may NOT step forward with his feet. You also cannot skip past a hole so if your own marble was knocked back far enough, you need to aim for the first hole again. If in the course, you aim for the next hole that is above where your marble was knocked.

--The team that reaches the 5th hole and then returns back to the 1st hole following the rules wins the game! Next, everyone lines up and shakes hands and thanks the other team for a good game.

NOTE
THIS GAME was played EVERYWHERE across the southeastern part of what is now the United States.
When you PLAY YOUR GAME—video tape it and post to youtube! J
When everyone sees how fun it is, we can revive this game across this part of the country!

Pathkiller-- Cherokee Chief and descendants

we are trying to contact all the descendants of Sara Pathkiller Gardnhire of the Knoxville TN area -- and anyone working with or related to Kristy Newman Rochart -- LAST know address of 4507 Fulton Drive in Knoxville TN-- these are descendants of PATHKILLER-- a noted Cherokee-- note-- this address was on a publicly posted site-- but if you wish us to remove it here just email us.


the links below list the children and other relatives also names like brown maw meigs and others and is a treasure of info.


here are some interesting facts-- anyone here connected to this family line?
you would be CHEROKEE if you are a descendant! :)
----[GARDENHIRE, James T. "Judge"
Captured at Ooltewah, Jan., 1864; accused of being spy. Married Sarah, daughter of the Cherokee Pathkiller.] source:http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_70954.asp
--AFFIDAVITS ON SARAH PATHKILLER GARDENHIRE-- http://www.roanetnheritage.com/research/native/03.htm

more on the gardenhire/ pathkiller line http://genforum.genealogy.com/gardenhire/messages/17.html shows more kids names and has other researchers you might be able to contact
and this-- if you skip the top part lol-- is pretty good because it gives names-- http://www.manataka.org/page18.html -- but the top part is fanciful.

updates updates updates

UPCOMING EVENT: Southeastern Festival Sept. 18-19 in Cherokee, NC-- be sure to attend-- for info go to the nc cherokee museum website
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Our original homeland included what are now known as many different states.
The USA "added" to our homeland when they forced us out west. (we never gave up claim to the southeast)
So we include those in what we call the Western District.

find which district you live in-- here is a list to help you --

Western District (includes Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Texas and Mexico) = Wu-de-li-gv-di-tlv-yi (western place)

Alabma = Tsa-s-ga-ya-yi (yellow jacket place)
Georgia = Da-lo-ne-ga-yi (gold place)
Illinois = Ga-no-le-s-gi-yi (windy place)
Indiana = Do-tsu-wa-yi (cardinal place)
Kentucky = Sa-go-ni-ge Ka-ne-s-ga-yi (blue grass place)
North Carolina = U-ta-li-yi (mountain place)
Ohio = E-quo-ni-yi (river place)
Virginia = Tsu-na-da-da-tlu-tu-gi-yi (sweetheart place)
South Carolina = Ka-nv-si-ta-yi (dog wood place-- our range was everywhere a dogwod can grow)
Tennessee = Ta-na-si (meets back)

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our goal:
to bring all the Cherokee Descendants BACK--
--back to the language
--back to the culture
--back to our homeland

UPCOMNG EVENT: Fall Renewal-- October is time of Creation we ask each Cherokee family to host a feast the 2nd weekend in October. Prior to the feast, mend fences and offer forgiveness, invite family over and finish the unfinished business of our lives.

NEW NEW NEW
WE ARE ON FACEBOOK!!
search for us as
"Cheroke Ancestors - Cherokee Descendants - Cherokee Heritage"

If you have even 1 Cherokee Ancestor, you are a Cherokee descendant .====
We are distinctive and unique.
1-- we all have at least one ancestor who was listed on a Cherokee Roll, or military enlistment, or historical document.
2-- we all meet together monthly with our families locally for food and fun and for prayer.
3-- we accept anyone who has a Cherokee Ancestor in our group.
4--we are learning as much as we can
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Cherokee Claim to Southeast

Despite what people think, the Cherokee nation NEVER gave up the land in the southeast. The leadership did NOT sign the treaty and were jailed by USA for that. The ones who did sign it were NOT leaders of Cherokee, and they did so against the Cherokee law and when they did, they were executed by the Cherokees for Treason. The Cherokee engaged in passive resistence-- they did not pack or prepare for a journey they had not agreed to take. Passive resistence failing, when they were forcibly removed to IT-- now known as Oklahoma-- they quickly reorgranized the council and voted approving a statement that said they do not give up their rights and claims to land owned in the Southeast.
Therefore, the land in the Southeast is still legally held by the Cherokee, and Illegallly held by non Cherokees.

Chief Lowery / Lowry / Lowrey Descendants

Siyo!
If you are a descendant of any of the Chief Lowrey's (John or George for instance) you ARE eligible for membership in our nation-- the Constitutional Cherokees.

Be sure to contact us, start your monthly potluck meetings with other relatives (or join one that is nearby you) and start learning the language and songs so that your application can be considered.

We welcome you!

Facebook

Siyo!
there is a group on facebook that is learning the cherokee language in the eastern dialect. it was put up by someone else but it seems to be a good group and they are sharing resources so if you are interested in learning the language and you are on facebook anyway, go sign up for it.

new youtube video posted today

go see it!

search all videos by anidohi

sgi

this quarters focus-- ancestors on the chapman roll

this quarter, we have been focusing on the descendants of the Chapman roll.
if you have an ancestor on this roll, a direct link, please contact us!
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CHAPMAN ROLL

No. Name Age Relation Notes by
ship Miller


Polk County, TN
1500. Cho-le-goke-sih
(or Tobacco Smoke) 32 [3061]
1501. Su-san-nih 19 w [3061]

1502. Chees-quh-neet
(or Young Bird) 24
1503. Wal-le-yuh 25 w
1504. Wee-lih 5 s
1505. Ah-lin-nih 2 d
1506. Ste-wih or Stephen 1 s

1507. E-see-kih 34
1508. Oo-loo-chih 21 w
1509. Willson 1 s



No. Name Age Relation Notes by
ship Miller


1510. John Chees-quh 50
1511. Wah-la-yu-kuh 60 w
1512. Ni-cee 18 d of w
1513. Sah-mih (or Sam) 11 s of w
1514. Sally 5 d [17701]

1515. Jim-mih
(or Oo-luh-soo-luh) 66

1516. Ko-le-gees-kih
(or Pine Pecker) 33
1517. Tah-nih 20 w
1518. Caroline 4 d
1519. Qua-kih (or Peggy) 1 d

1520. Sal-lin-nih 25
1521. A-wih 6 d
1522. John 4 s

1523. Te-to-le-nust
(or Walking Stick) 70
1524. Too-stuh 25 w
1525. Mi-kih (or Mile) 4 s [6219]
1526. Jim-mih 8 Orp. GS

1527. You-choo-howee-yuh
(Or Bear Meat) 60 [11606, 15704]
1528. Sis-sih 50 w [15704]
1529. Choo-huh-loo-huh 15 s
1530. Wa-loo-kih 9 s
1531. Ta-nee-lih 4 s
1532. Jin-nih 2 d
1533. Ko-he-na-ih
(or Granny Bird) 80 GM of w

1534. Michael Hilderbrand 69 [859]
1535. Michael Hilderbrand, Jr 10 gs
[NOTE: Interesting - Miller App 859 (Cherokee by Blood, vol. 1) was
Julia A. Bee, of Flint, OK. whose father and mother were enrolled by
Drennen (1852 - Indian Territory) in Tahlequah 540 as Stephen P and
Mary Hilderbrand - apparently some of the family had moved West by
this time - jwj]

1536. John Hilderbrand 33 [859]
1537. Mary Hilderbrand 12 d
1538. Amelia Hilderbrand 10 d
1539. Eliza Jane Hilderbrand 8 d
1540. Emily Hilderbrand 4 d
1541. Ann Hilderbrand 6 d

1542. Polly Mayfield 22 w
1543. Nancy Elizabeth Mayfield 2 d [17738]
1544. Michael Mayfield 1 s

1545. Martha E. Hilderbrand 9

End of Polk County, Tennessee


No. Name Age Relation Notes by
ship Miller


Monroe County, TN

1546 G. W. Morgan 33 [18]
1547 Mary S. Morgan 2 d
1548 Gideon Morgan 1 s dead [983, 18]
[NOTE: Miller App 18 (Cherokee by
Blood,
vol. 1)is Gideon Morgan above -
the notation "dead" beside his name in unclear unless it refers to his
mother. Miller app 983 Amanda P. Scales of Webber Falls, OK, was enrolled
by Drennen at Tah. 12 as Amanda P MORGAN with her mother Margaret Root
wife of Gideon Morgan, Sr, below, and her brothers Rufus M and Robert H
Morgan. For more explanation see notes on the Siler Roll (#1503-1506)- jwj]
1549 Gideon Morgan , Sr 73

[NOTE:The following two families do not appear under Monroe Co., TN in the
Siler Roll - jwj]
1550. Sarah Smith 29
1551. John Smith 7 s

1552. William Col-a-quee [123]
1553. Sally Col-a-quee w
1554. James Colaquee s
1555. Richard Colaquee s
1556. Crawford Colaquee s
1557. Mary J. Colaquee d
(Live near Tellico Iron Co.'s works)
[NOTE: no ages for these entrants - jwj]
End of Monroe Co., TN

No. Name Age Relation Notes by
ship Miller

McMinn County, TN
1558 Margaret Eiffert 35 [2175]
1559 Betty Hanks 17 d of w [2177, 2175]
1560 Calvin Hanks 15 s of w
1561 Margaret Hanks 13 d of w [2176, 2175]
1562 Robert Hanks 10 s [2178, 2175]
1563 Gideon Hanks 8 s
1564 Washington Eiffert 2 s [2175]

1565 Elizabeth McElrath 30 w
1566 John Edgar McElrath 7 s
1567 Ellen McElrath 5 d
1568 Susan McElrath 3 d [8048]
1569 Montezuma Morgan 15 b of w

1570 Licind Marsh 44
1571 John Marsh 18 s
1572 Willoughby Marsh 13 s
1573 Cherokee Rogers 22 w [1051]
1574 Cennell Rogers 1 s
[NOTE: The next two families do not appear on the Siler Roll in McMinn
County - jwj]
1575. Daniel Arnold
1576. Prince Arnold 15 s [20067]

1577. Eliza Woodall 23
1578. Martha E. Woodall 4 d
End of McMinn Co., TN

No. Name Age Relation Notes by
ship Miller

Bradley County, TN

1579 Alexander Clingan 55
1580 Martha Clingan 41 w [1541]
1581 Elizabeth Clingan 21 d
1582 Polly Anne Clingan 20 d
1583 Wm. Davidson Clingan 18 s
1584 Eveline Clingan 16 d
1585 Martha Clingan 15 d
1586 Judge Keith Clingan 14 s
1587 Adeline Clingan 12 d
1588 Minerva Clingan 11 d
1589 Jas K Polk Clingan 9 s
1590 Alexander Clingan 7 d
1591 Lilly Ann Clingan 4 d
1592 Edward E Clingan 3 s
1593 George Clingan 1 s

1594 Mary Ann Day 21 [360]
1595 Samuel Walkingstick 1 s

1596 Susannah Parks 52 [1877]
1597 Calvin Parks 26 s
1598 John Ross Parks 18 s
1599 Samuel Parks 15 s
[NOTE: Another connection? Miller App 1877 (Cherokee by
Blood, Vol. 2)
is Emma J. Samuels, of Colyer, Kans, who was enrolled by Drennen in
Tah. 267 - jwj]
1600 Ruth Price 36
1601 Mary Price 3 d
1602 Richard T Parks 29 [1064]
1603 Robert Calhoun Parks 1 s [1064]
1604 Geo Washington Parks 31 [1084]
1605 Susan C Parks 7 d [1084]
1606 Lousia Cherokee Parks 4 d [1084]
1607 Samuel Parks 3 s [1084]
1608 Emily Walker 47 widow [2121]
[NOTE: another connection or a family move? Miller App. 2121 (vol. 2)
was Emily L. Clark, Chelsea, OK, who was enrolled with her mother by
Drennen in Ill Dist. #288 - jwj]
End of Bradley County

No. Name Age Relation Notes by
ship Miller

Hamilton County, TN

1609 Nancy Davis 28 w
1610 Eliza Davis 11 d [20563]
1611 James Davis 9 s
1612 Newton Davis 7 s
1613 Wesley Davis 3 s
1614 Sarah Ann Davis 2 d
1615 Nelly Davis 28 w [6292]
1617 *Eliza Ann Davis 15 d
1618 Cynthia Davis 13 d [6292]
1619 Jane Davis 10 d [6292]
1620 Lafayette Davis 6 s [6292]
1621 William Davis 4 s
1616* Eleanor Davis 1 d
[NOTE: Chapman skipped #1616 and added her at the end of the family. He
made a notation to that fact by inserting "*" - jwj]

1622 James T Gardenhire 40 [9614]
1623 Sarah Gardenhire 36 w [9614]
1624 Esther J Gardenhire 17 d
1625 Sarah Gardenhire 15 d

1626 Diannah McIntosh 21
1627 Zerelda Roddy 15 w [8001]
1628 John Yarnell 46
1629 Jane T Yarnell 38 w

1630 Eliza Waters 14
1631 John Cowart 49 [628]
1632 Cynthia Cowart 40 w [628]
1633 Lemuel Cowart 12 s [1229, 628]
1634 Jane Cowart 9 d
1635 Thomas Cowart 5 s [628]
1636 John Cowart Jr. 2 s
1637 Willis Fields 35 [553]
1638 Cornelius Fields 18 s
1639 Mary Fields 15 d
1640 Richard Fields 14 s
1641 John Fields 13 s
1642 William Brown 27

[NOTE: The following 7 families do not appear under Hamilton Co. on the
Siler Roll - jwj]

1643. Benjamin Brackett 47 [1986]
1644. Susan Brackett 42 w
1645. Michael Ann Brackett 20 d
1646. Jesse M Brackett 18 s
1647. Marion Brackett 16 s
1648. Thomas Brackett 14 s
1649. Catharine Brackett 11 d
1650. Adam Brackett 6 s
1651. Sarah Brackett 3 d
1652. Benjamin Brackett, Jr 1 s
[NOTE: Another connection perhaps. Miller App. 1986 is Anderson Richey,
Metory, OK. whose grandfather was enrolled by Drennen (1852) in Dis.
#48 - jwj].
1653. Marion Janes
1654. Wm. H. Janes
1655. Nancy Ann Janes
1656. Sarah C. Janes
1657. Isaac M. Janes
[NOTE: no relationships or ages shown - jwj]
1658. Catharine Vann 50 wid.
1659. James Vann 25 s

1660. Mrs. Brown 48 widow

1661. Riley Fields 19

1662. Sally Hail
1663. Michael Hail
1664. George W. Hail
[NOTE: no relationship or ages shown - jwj]

1665. William Becknell [13573?]
1666. Thurro Becknell
1667. Therzey Becknell
1668. Caroline M Becknell [3227?]
[NOTE: Miller apparently had some question regarding the two referenced
Miller Applications. However, upon checking them they are valid. Miller
App. 3227 (vol. 1) was William T. Gann, Soddy, TN, son of Caroline M.
Becknell, Chapman #1668 above; Miller App. 13573 (vol. 6) was John Becknell
whose father was William Becknell, Chapman #1665 above - jwj]
End of Hamilton Co., TN


No. Name Age Relation Notes by
ship Miller

Nashville, TN
1670. James Trott 45 [615]
1671. Rachel Trott 39 w [615]
1672. Ross Trott 12 s [615]
1673. Nancy Trott 15 d
1674. Oceola Trott 10 s
1675. Timothy Trott 8 s
1676. William Trott 6 s [615]
1677. Maria Trott 4 d

End of Nashville, TN


No. Name Age Relation Notes by
ship Miller

Meigs County, TN

1678. George W. Hail [1416]
1679. Elizabeth Hail [1416]
[NOTE: No ages or relationship entered for this family but Miller App.
1416 was Elizabeth Cate of Hill City, TN, age 65 in Sept 1906, who "was
enrolled by Chapman at 1679 under the name of Elizabeth Hail. Father
enrolled enrolled by Chapman #1678." (Cherokee by
Blood, vol. 1) - jwj]

End of Nashville, TN
End of TN

more lessons-- more info

siyo!
there are more lessons available -- sign up on facebook to learn more

also

we have all been off line a bit lately working on the constitution

it is imperative that you send along your contributions now.

please email your thoughts

everyone has a chance to have their voice heard!

heard of lessons in NC

we heard from the ONE FEATHER newspaper that there will be lessons in Cherokee given SOON!
-registration deadline is April 10, 2009-- so hurry up!
class begins April 25th
Preference is given to EBCI enrolled members but YOU can learn to speak! Enroll today! Space is limited!
Classes are daily 8:00 a.m. till 4:30 p.m.

You can join instructor Bo Taylor for a fun and exciting way to learn the Cherokee language!
Contact information:
Cynthia Grant, Language Resourse Supervisor at (828)497-1849 or (828)736-4172 or fax: (828)497-1590
email: cyntgran@nc-cherokee.com

watch our videos

siyo!
we are posting informative videos on youtube for you to watch.
please click on the link "watch our videos" [above] and watch this one, the click on the youtube link for "more" videos from Anidohi.

this will allow you to see them all.

next, subscribe to Anidohi through youtube and you will be alerted each time a new video is posted.

Sgi!

FAMILY TREE research / genealogy

siyo!
please post your links to the Baker Roll at

http://groups.google.com/group/eastern-cwy-descendants

OR email privately to

children.ebci@gmail.com so we can help each other to research.

ALSO==


any links you have to

http://childrenofebci.blogspot.com/2009/01/our-tribal-enrollment-poli...
any of the other rolls we recognize.


sgi!

Family Reunion

Siyo! (shee-yoh means Hello!)

We have been "toying" around with the idea
of having/hosting a large
"family reunion" style gathering
of all the descendants of ALL the eastern Cherokee rolls, like the Baker Roll--and would like to know if you have any interest in being a part of something like that.

If you would, send us an email at
children.ebic@gmail.com
and let us know what you think such a gathering should include.
Sgi!

NOTE:

Our lands encompassed nearly all or parts of what is today known as AL, GA, KY, IN, MS, NC, OH, SC, TN, VA, WV. All of our original nation was east of the Mississippi. SEE the maps at the bottom of this blog page to see where our boundaries extended.

Our Ancestral rolls include the Reservation Roll of 1817, the Mullay Roll of 1848, the Chapman Roll of 1851-2, The Act of Congress Roll of 1854, the Siler Roll, the Swetland Roll of 1869, the Hestor Roll of 1883, the Churchill Roll of 1908, the Guion Miller Roll of 1909, and the Baker Roll of 1924.
There are other rolls we recognize as well.

WHY WE EXIST

The EBCI (Eastern Band Of Cherokee Indians) uses only the Baker Roll (of 1924) to determine blood quantum for membership.

If you do NOT have at least 1/16th of "blood" from this roll, you cannot be an enrolled member of the EBCI-- not even if you have more Cherokee blood from another roll of Cherokees! Outrageous!

The CNO (Cherokee Nation of OK) requires the DAWES Roll. It does NOT have a blood quantum, but to get on that roll, your Cherokee ancestor had to be living in OK Territory at the time it was made.

The UKB (United Keetoowah Band also has an even higher blood quantum than that of the EBCI-- must be of at least 1/4, although they do acknowledge ANY historic roll of the Cherokee.

Because the ECHOTA "Treaty" was illegal, many Cherokees -- even many full bloods--were naturally EXCLUDED from the Dawes roll. These same Cherokees were NOT allowed to register on the Baker roll either.

So-- we have TWO (2) groups of DOCUMENTED Cherokees and people of Cherokee descent who cannot enroll ANYWHERE.

Those we were not living in the west at the time of enrollment but were Cherokee and those Cherokee who were not part of the group in the East when their rolls were made.

Many of Our CHEROKEE Children and Grandchildren CANNOT enroll as Cherokee because of those reasons.

Therefore-- we have organized to unite ALL Descendants of EASTERN Cherokees together.

Please, if you are a descendant of a documented EASTERN Cherokee -- you are one of us-- come and learn more of us and consider becoming a part of our family.

You'll be glad you did.

Sgi!

Anidohi, public relations secretary,
Constitutional Cherokee

PS-- Our lands encompassed nearly all or parts of what is today known as AL, GA, KY, IN, MS, NC, OH, SC, TN, VA, WV. All of our original nation was east of the Mississippi. SEE the maps at the bottom of this blog page to see where our boundaries extended.

Each Moon-- Membership activities

Siyo (Shee Yoh means Hello)

Welcome to this group.

Everyone who is a descendant is requested to please become involved.

Here are some ways we need your help.

Please get the word out to others of your family who are less than 1/16th blood EBCI and who cannot join the EBCI because of their low blood quantum. Tell others you know who have ancestors on other rolls of eastern Cherokees.

Each month, on the first Saturday night of the month, hold a potluck with all these folks.

When your group has 7 heads of households (adults) attending the potluck on a regular basis, your group can then be brought into some more activities of our people.

They will then work to create 2 other groups of 7 adults (families) who hold a potluck. This is the 2nd stage of organization in your immediate area.

Notify us immediately when your group has 21 active adults (3 groups of 7) in attendance at the potlucks. This will signal your groups readiness to become an official chapter and to begin greater participation.

What your potluck will do-- Its Purpose....

AT first....

it will help ease folks into learning the cherokee traditional ways.

The eldest of the group and the host of the home hosting each potluck must be first greeted by the others who come before those people can speak to anyone else present.

Once that is done, then the food can be prepared and placed onto the table.

The eldest or a native speaker will then call everyone together and pray the blessing.

There will be 2 lines

one line is for women
the other line is for men

The oldest goes through the line first all the way done to the youngest who goes through their line last.

If folks are same year of age, they must determine who is oldest, down to month or day or time if necessary.

If a woman is having her moon time she does not prepare food, touch food, serve food- not even to herself. One of the other women must volunteer to serve her as a way to honor her because of her tremendous power at that time. she will also sit apart from everyone else.

after the meal, everyone will line up oldest to youngest- 2 lines - then the 2 lines will integrate so that they are man, woman, man, woman.... etc all the way down to the kids.

then they will all sit in a spiraling circle- oldest closest to the center and youngest on the outside

share prayer requests and prayers for one another.

If traditional songs are known, they may be sung at this time also, after the prayer. If they are not known, we advise that at least 1 song per month be presented for learning.

You can learn some background on our dances at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_dance

The Elder or a native speaker will pronounce a blessing on everyone, and folks then will go home as they feel inclined to do so

This is to be done each month.

Remember, as our Tsalagi (Cherokee) Prophets stated: We are ONLY Cherokee as long as we speak our OWN Cherokee language, sing our OWN Cherokee songs, dance our OWN Cherokee dances, and celebrate our OWN Cherokee festivals. Cease to live as Cherokee and you are not Cherokee. Begin to live as your Cherokee ancestors did, and you will truly be Cherokee, not just by ancestry, but in actuality.


Someone from the group is to keep a record of everyone who attends. This may be done with a sign in sheet or book.

The group is to meet an additonal saturday once a month (can be either the 3rd Saturday OR the last saturday of that month) in order to go over everyone's geneaological records to make certain that everyone in the group is actually a descendant of the EBCI and the Baker Roll OR from another eastern roll of Cherokee people.

At this group, the above activities will also apply, however the records will be reviewed 2 hours prior to eating the potluck meal. This will also be a time for language study, and to learn dances, songs and cultural training.

Good foods for a potluck included home cooked meals or purchased meals.

Chicken, fried or otherwise is usually a good choice.

Potatoes, corn, beans, cornbread, squash, and tomatoes are all great as these are all native foods. Coffee is as well but some folks prefer sodas (cokes) too. Its ok to have some foods that are familiar. As time goes by, your group will naturally develop more and more native recipes and dishes.Desserts should be healthy and fruits are a good choice.

Try to serve native foods whenever possible but try to serve healthy choices as many of our people are prone to diabetes and heart disease.
. The old timers will tell you that boiled or roasted meat is the preferred way of cooking from long ago. They never fried it and certainly breaded foods like we see today everywhere were unknown to our ancestors.

Fry bread is not to be served. It is not a traditional food but comes to us out of the commodity system. It is delicious, yes, because our people are resourceful creative cooks but it was out of starvation that we were forced to make it palatable. As unhealthy as it is, we cannot continue feeding our children the bread of our slavery. Not only that, but it is a wheat product, and wheat is not from our land. Wheat plantings displaced our traditional native grains and we will not perpetuate that cycle of genocide upon the plant people. They too were invaded.

Suppose someone who doesn't know the history of fry bread brings some? Be hospitable. Don't hurt their feelings. Fry bread is a lot of work. They were trying to bring a gift. You can find a way to tactfully and kindly share the truth with them later on. Right then might not be the best timing.

Remember also, we follow the teachings of the prophet Yonaguska, so no alcohol is ever allowed.

It will be good for your group to meet together each month in homes at first, but as soon as possible, start collecting funds from those who are willing in order to rent a community building or other location to meet in. Be certain to put an ethical accounting method in place to make sure the monies collected are not misused or misappropriated.

Sometimes churches will allow you to rent their space for a nominal fee and many of them have excellent kitchens and dining halls.

In good weather, a covered pavilion at a local park might be a good choice for a meeting.

Or if one of your members has enough land, the group could construct such a pavilion for meeting there from March till November.

Please notify us immediately if / when you have 21 (3 groups of 7) families that are attending your meetings. At that point, your group is eligible to be recognized as a chapter and to begin attending the larger activities and to receive additional training and assistance.


sgi (shkee means thanks)


Council
Constitutional Cherokee
Description of traditional dances also found on Museum website:
http://www.cherokee-nc.com/index.php?page=16

Constitutional Cherokees

Did you know our ancestors gathered in what is now GA and wrote a Constitution in 1827?
Did you know that it was declared "Null and void" by our enemies?

Did you know it CLEARLY defined the boundaries of the tribe?
This defining of our lands was a kind of a "line in the sand" stance, because so little was left by that time.

Our Constitution was NOT coerced. It was drafted by our people in an effort to preserve our nation. However, the shrinking of our boundaries was coerced; the exclusion of Cherokee descendants was coerced. We are reversing that damage to our national identity and to generations of injured descendants.

However, some of the tenents held in it were in reaction to the persecution of our people. Certain statements would never have been issued but for the hostile climate in which our people found themselves.

The shrinking of the boundaries was NOT by choice but was through coercion and duress; it was through coercion to shrink our holdings and to ultimately abandon our possessions and identity invalidates any legal agreement obtained through such coercion and duress.

Coercion is is the practice of compelling a person or group or manipulating them to behave in an involuntary way (whether through action or inaction) by use of threats, intimidation, trickery, or some other form of pressure or force. These are used as leverage, to force the victims to act in the desired way. Coercion may involve -- and in our history it did involve-- the actual infliction of physical pain/injury or psychological harm in order to enhance the credibility of a threat. The threat of further harm may then lead to the cooperation or obedience of the person being coerced.

Coercion is the reason so many went west. The irony of history is that resistors to this coercion were declared to be "NO LONGER CHEROKEE".

Coercion was used when the Cherokee Nation's own boundary lines were MOVED and yet the people who did NOT move were said to NOT be Cherokee because they "no longer" lived within the newly established boundaries!!

That would be like declaring the USA to be Iraq, saying the USA is in ASIA, and then saying everyone living in North America was no longer American because they had now moved outside of America!

Coercion is the reason for the shrinking of our numbers. Those who hid their heritage and actual identity were also coerced into doing so. Because they resisted an illegal operation of removal, they were declared to be "NO LONGER CHEROKEE".

We are standing up today to say that just because our enemies declared us NON Cherokees, that did not make us so.

We are STILL Cherokee!

Duress or coercion (as a term of jurisprudence) is a legal defense, one of four of the most important justification defenses, by which defendants argue that they should not be held liable because the actions that broke the law were only performed out of an immediate fear of injury. We are claiming this for all descendants of Cherokees who failed to remove to the west, and who were not included in the later rolls because they hid or registered their descendants elsewhere as white because of they feared repercussions.

Our Constitution was NOT coerced.

The shrinking of our lands and the ultimate removal of our people to the west of the Mississippi WAS coerced.
The necessity of our ancestors to hide their identity WAS coerced.
We claim the right to restore our right to our own constitution.
We claim the right to restore our lands.
We claim the right to restore the heritage of all descendants of all historically known Eastern Cherokee people.

Our lands encompassed nearly all or parts of what is today known as KY, VA, NC, SC, GA, AL, TN, WV, MS, and even OH and IN.
All of our original nation was east of the Mississippi.

Our ancestors remained here in the east, but VERY FEW remained in NC. Those who did were also Cherokee, and the Eastern Band was to preserve that. (See prior blogs for explanations of how they did not continue to recognize all of us).

BUT-- not all Cherokees were part of the Eastern Band group. Thousands were excluded from that tribe, even tho they were Cherokees, because they didn't live within the Qualla Boundary!

Several of our members have sought long in prayer to determine the name for us. Our people have been known by many names, and the name Tsalagi itself was not our nme for ourselves, but was given to us by others.
Because of our history, we elect to accept all historical titles for our people that are respectful to us. We have considered various names. We look back to the time when our people said, "This will be our land forever" and signed into being our own national Constitution. This took a great deal of courage.

Therefore the name that seems to be the most in favor for our name is "Constitutional Cherokee Nation" for the historic document that describes the boundaries of our homeland east of the Mississippi, and this is the name that was settled upon as the "official" title of our people. We may also be referred to and regarded as Constitutional Cherokees.

Second up in their consideration was to also call our group the Eastern Cherokee Nation, in honor of the people who stayed on this side of the Mississippi, hidden in communities across the southeast in MS, KY, TN, AL, GA, WVA, VA, NC & SC and other states.

A third suggestion was to call ourselves the Carolina Cherokees to recognize our historical roots and ties with the EBCI, but this was ultimately rejected as being too restrictive. Our people filled a vast land area and we were always present in more places than just the Carolinas.

As we become more formally united as an organization recognized by others, we may wish to consider which bests describes us.
This does not mean that our family groups scattered across the Eastern region of the US have been inactive all this time. No. We have ALWAYS been here. It just means that outsiders don't tend to realize who we really are even when we explain to them. This is a result of the mindwashing done by the persecuting forces that have sought to destroy us from the beginning of the invasion of our homeland.
We are working actively to change the perception of our presumed and well advertised demise.
Just because we have been silent behind the scenes does NOT mean we have not continually remained here. For years this oppressive occupation did not allow us a voice in the public. We kept our voice, whispered privately in homes and communities across our homeland. We are finding our voice in today's public forum and we are speaking up.

Therefore, for the time being, we are known as various names: Children of the EBCI, Eastern Cherokee, Constitutional Cherokee, Carolina Cherokees and others. All in all we are still the Aniyvwiya, the people of Keetoowah.

OUR TRIBAL ENROLLMENT POLICY

#1-- may be of any Eastern Cherokee Blood quantum.

#2-- must have at least 1 ancestor in a direct familial link to at least 1 documented Cherokee person who lived East of the Mississippi.

Our lands encompassed nearly all or parts of what is today known as AL, GA, KY, IN, MS, NC, OH, SC, TN, VA, WV. All of our original nation was east of the Mississippi. SEE the maps at the bottom of this blog page to see where our boundaries extended.

WE DO NOT DO RESEARCH (other than to verify your submitted claims). You will be responsible to provide documentation linking you directly back to the ancestor that exists on official documents of Eastern Cherokee people.

These documents include rolls, rosters, and also any names of Cherokee people that were included in publications that were produced prior to the Baker Roll of 1924.

These rolls include the Reservation Roll of 1817, the Mullay Roll of 1848, the Chapman Roll of 1851-2, The Act of Congress Roll of 1854, the Siler Roll, the Swetland Roll of 1869, the Hestor Roll of 1883, the Churchill Roll of 1908, the Guion Miller Roll of 1909, and the Baker Roll of 1924.
There are other rolls we recognize as well.

We also recognize direct descendants of Eastern Cherokees who served in the Civil War in the Cherokee Mounted Rifles known as the 1st Cherokee Mounted Riflemen, and in the Seminole wars and are on the rosters as Cherokee fighting men during those engagements.

We further recognize all the direct descendants of eastern Cherokee from notables such as Nancy Ward and her cousins, descendants of Cherokees mentioned by name in the writings of Tmberlake and others that were written and published during the 1700's and the 1800's that mentions any such ancestors by name, and indicates that they were living and or residing east of the Mississippi. Of course, we also recognize those of Eastern Cherokee heritage who are mentioned in the works of authors like Bertram, Starr, and Mooney.

WHAT ABOUT OTHER RACES/ MIXED RACES?
UNLIKE the 1827 Constitution, however, we accept all descendants of Cherokees on any Eastern roll, no matter what other racial component they may have. Blacks / or those of African descent will NEVER be excluded solely based on race but are always eligible for membership as long as they have at least 1 Cherokee ancestor on the Eastern Rolls and fulfill other membership requirements.

#3-- a citizen applying for membership cannot be a convicted child molestor, rapist, or murderer. Any crime for which the council deems it appropriate may be raised as grounds for dismissal, after sufficient deliberation and in accordance with tribal law and policies.

#4--while we both enjoy and acknowledge a blood relationship with the EBCI, the UKB, and the CNO, our members cannot be an active member of any other tribal organization that is either federally recognized, state recognized, or of a tribal group that is seeking such recognition. Any such prior or current memberships must be publically and formally renounced prior to seeking membership in our Tribe. Regretably, this is a decision forced on us by the BIA Regulations.

#5-- Enrollment is intended as a method of determining who is eligible to vote and to hold office. With the exception of minors and those unable to vote for legitimate reasons, we expect our members to vote often throughout their life. This is both an honor and a privilege. The right to enroll is the right to vote (once one is of legal age). Voting is a sacred honor and is to be given privacy as it is a personal decision, however, failure to vote in at least one election in every 7 year time period can be cause for a member to lose enrollment privileges.

Remember, as our Tsalagi (Cherokee) Prophets stated: We are ONLY Cherokee as long as we speak our OWN Cherokee language, sing our OWN Cherokee songs, dance our OWN Cherokee dances, and celebrate our OWN Cherokee festivals. Cease to live as Cherokee and you are not Cherokee. Begin to live as your Cherokee ancestors did, and you will truly be Cherokee, not just by blood, but also by our behavior.

ALWAYS Cherokee!

Siyo! [hello!]
Every Child of the Cherokee Is a Cherokee!

Are you a descendant of the Baker Roll-- but you are less than 1/16th blood?

Have you been told that you are not eligible to be EBCI although you have an ancestor on the Baker Roll?

Don't be invisible! You are one of us!

We welcome you!

The ancient tradition states that if you have 1 drop of Cherokee blood- you are a Cherokee.

The clan system was all but lost 200 years ago.

A cherokee man decided to marry a non cherokee woman he had met in the northern states.
This had not been adequately considered before.

Not that it had never happened... just that it had never happened with one so prominent as he.

Never had anyone had a concern as long as whites were marrying Cherokees-- their children were still cherokee because they had a clan. A child's clan is traced through their mother because the Cherokee are a Matrilineal society and culture.

But a white woman marrying a Cherokee man-- heretofore their children would have just been considered non persons-- definitely not cherokee.

Council met-- the question?

Would their children still be cherokee even if their mom was not?
Debate raged.

The answer was decided after much prayer, fasting and discussion.
YES!

YES!
Their children would be considered Cherokee.

Today the EBCI (Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians) DO NOT recognize that answer anymore.

The EBCI and other federally recognized Tribes engage in a form of genocide forced upon them by the US Government.
Any child without enough "Blood Quantum" cannot be called Cherokee by the EBCI or the US Government.

The EBCI set their blood quantum at 1/16-- so that EVEN if a child knows their clan, if their mother is 1/16 and marries a non cherokee, her children are excluded from the tribe FOREVER.

Only if her children marry back into the tribe-- only then can her grandchildren "become" Cherokee again. This is terrible.

This policy ENSURES the CULLING of the tribe. Shrinking it down smaller and smaller till one day it will melt away.

It has ENSURED the loss of culture, language and traditions.
It has meant spiritual death to many children of the tribe.

This does not even address the thousands who are excluded because they hid too well during the time of fire and darkness and the trail where they cried. That is a separate issue for others to fight. But this is OUR issue!

ARE YOU a desdendant of an EBCI / Baker Roll member who does NOT have at least 1/16 blood?

Have you been excluded from your Cherokee Heritage? Do not let them keep you invisible!

Speak up!

Let us Unite together to support one another, to preserve our culture, our traditions, our language and our ways!

This is where we start. Here at this site.

Small sparks to join togehter to bring warmth and light to all of us.

SGI!

Members and Friends of The

Children of the descendants of the Eastern Band Of Cherokee Indians Tribe
+++++++

GOAL: Establish a center that will unite all the forgotten children of descendants of the Baker roll that we can come to and share with one another, help one another, encourage one another and preserve our legacy.

Methods we are using to achieve this goal:

1--Establish & maintain a web presence
2--Establish & maintain a mailing address/site and local chapters/ groups.
3--Compile a listing of all EBCI descendants who are 1/16th or LESS and unite us together through a mailing list, news letter and regular activities & gatherings
4--Establish & maintain a council of our groups that will guide us and direct us
5--Achieve full status as a 501c3 group- raising funds to care for the needy folks in our group, our elders, our children, our veterans and to purchase back our homelands.
6--campaign to be recognized for who we REALLY are! WE ARE TSALAGI! (Cherokee!)
7--preserve our language, culture, traditions and share them with ALL who are descendants of the Baker Roll of Cherokees
8--establish friendly relations with all other Cherokees.
9--Defend our status and right to be called Cherokees
10--Create a safer and better world for our descendants who will ALWAYS be CHEROKEE!

We are the Constitutional Cherokees.

We are the Cherokees of the Carolinas --And the Tennessee Valley, of the Appalachian Mountains, The Smokies, and the Cumberland Plateau.

We are the excluded Children of the EBCI-- the CNO, and all the other rolls.

Our ancestors may not have been on the Dawes Rolls, but they were on other actual Cherokee Rolls.
Mindful of their children's lives, they hid and prayed for a day of freedom. We are the formerly invisible descendants of the Eastern Cherokees who stayed on this side of the Mississippi.

WE ARE STILL HERE!

The EBCI current Requirements

TRIBAL ENROLLMENT Many people want to know about becoming a Tribal Member of the EBCI's based on a relative being Cherokee or of Cherokee descent. Enrollment in the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians is governed by tribal ordinance 284 dated June 24, 1996 and restricts enrollment to the following: Direct lineal ancestor must appear on the 1924 Baker Roll of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. (Note: The Baker Roll is the base roll of the Eastern Cherokee and contains the name, birth date, Eastern Cherokee Blood quantum and roll number of the base enrollees. Blood Quantum: must possess at least 1/16th degree of Eastern Cherokee blood.
All criteria must be met in order to be eligible with the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. Enrollment is CLOSED to all people who cannot meet the above requirements.
source: EBCI Official Website

More frightening is that when the editorials in the Cherokee papers are published, one reads of demands to exclude even more from the EBCI by declaring not only must you be a descendant, but you must also reside on the tiny acreage of the Qualla Boundary, and if you live anywhere else, then they want to remove you from their rolls.

This is NOT our way. We want EVERY descendant to be recognized. If you are a descendant of the Baker Roll, but with less than 1/16th blood, you are one of us! Contact us today!

Contacting us

Right now, the best way we can find each other is through EMAIL and through local meetings and gatherings.

Please email us so we can keep in touch.

If you can PROVE a direct link to ANY enrolled Cherokee on the Baker Roll, or on ANY of the OTHER Eastern Cherokee Rolls, -- email us with that information.

the email address shows in the profile.

We will then begin to work together on our goals.

You will be contacted with information on how we can help each other!

Sgi!

In the email--Give your NAME, Age, Mailing address, daytime and evening phone numbers,
and a listing of documents that you have that prove your known link to either an Eastern Cherokee Person or to a Baker roll member, and, if you do know it, your Clan (direct link of mothers to the ancestor) and if you wish to include it, your known blood quantum.

We don't exclude anyone who is a legitmate direct descendant of any documented Eastern Cherokee person, regardless of whatever other ancestry they may have, but it is important to know that you are a legitimate descendant of an Eastern Cherokee person.

Also, include how you wish to be contacted.

We will notify you with information on how to communicate with other members.

NO PERSONAL INFORMATION WILL ever BE MADE PUBLIC!
we will NEVER sell or give your information away to anyone-- NO one else outside our leadership and membership committees will ever see your information without your consent.

IF you want to contact other members, or be contacted by other members, indicate that also in your email. We will then send you instructions on how to join an online private email group.

We will also email you of Potlucks we will host for meeting and greeting one another, and other occassions and opportunities to get to know one another. So if you are interested in that-- please let us know!

Remember, as our Tsalagi (Cherokee) Prophets stated: We are ONLY Cherokee as long as we speak our OWN Cherokee language, sing our OWN Cherokee songs, dance our OWN Cherokee dances, and celebrate our OWN Cherokee festivals. Cease to live as Cherokee and you are not Cherokee. Begin to live as your Cherokee ancestors did, and you will truly be Cherokee, not just by blood but also by behavior.

We follow the teachings of the Prophet Yonaguska, so we NEVER drink alcohol or serve it.

IF you know ANYONE who could qualify for this group-- PLEASE ask them to contact us ASAP.

Then begin hosting a potluck in your area for all the descendants who are less than 1/16th cherokee. Email us for details. (The email is in the profile).

Host your potluck for the first and last saturday of each month.

We are all meeting on those dates across the Southeast!

Let us know when you have had 7 Adults / families in attendance at these potlucks

This is for the protection of our people's identities and so that everyone can learn what it really means to be Cherokee before becoming publicly identified with us. It gives you a chance to check us out and make sure we are truly authentic and it gives us a chance to get to know you better too.

It also helps folks to become involved quickly but also giving a chance to decide if our group is not for you, then you have nothing to lose.

So please contact us. You'll be glad you did.

We welcome you!

Sgi!
PS: It is our goal to work toward a meeting of all state recognized and non - recognized Cherokee from all over the Southeastern US in order to begin the process of healing the old wounds inflicted upon all our people and our ancestors.
We also want to revitalize and restore our language.
Remember, as our Tsalagi (Cherokee) Prophets stated: We are ONLY Cherokee as long as we speak our OWN Cherokee language, sing our OWN Cherokee songs, dance our OWN Cherokee dances, and celebrate our OWN Cherokee festivals. Cease to live as Cherokee and you are not Cherokee. Begin to live as your Cherokee ancestors did, and you will truly be Cherokee, not only through ancestry, but also through our actions.